Follow Along iMonetizeit vs Lospollos vs Adverten vs Clickdealer vs ProfitSocial - 1st Dating Smartlink Battle in the World

[Clickstar]

Almost everybody, who works with push traffic, has probably launched dating at one time.

According to most managers’ opinion, push traffic composed considerable part of dating smartlink networks, when they have just appeared.
But later something went wrong…

And we had a light bulb moment – why don’t we test them again in 2020?

And idea came to mind:
What happens if I add a few smartlinks to 1 campaign?

Super Smartlink Network? Smartlinked Smartlink? Smartlink with top payouts in all GEO?
Or maybe it's all a totally idiotic idea?

I don't know what to call it.

But I really wanted to see HOW it would work.

Lospollos vs iMonetizeit vs Adverten vs Clickdealer

Have you ever seen such battle?

Top dating smartlinks fight for highest EPV on Clickstar.
I launched traffic, and mildly speaking, we haven’t expected such results.

Traffic Source: Clickstar
Geo: Europe
Tracking Tool: Voluum (+Enabled AI)
Type of offers: Dating Smartlinks from iMonetizeit, Lospollos, Adverten, Clickdealer
Payouts: i dont know

My First idea:
Register in all top dating smartlink networks
Add all smartlinks in 1 campaign
Enable Traffic distribution AI in paths
Use Spypush for make incredible promo in all GEOs
Find top EPV in every geo
PROFIT ???

but after tests, I read this topic (This is best I read in 2020 and was looking for the same thing this guy was looking for)
about REAL AI optimization with @Kintura (later need test this tracker)

My Actions
Ok, i spy promo and make 9 ads in campaign
My first EU geo is DE ( Why DE? stable TOP geo with big payouts)
Check average bids & ctr in this geo
But didn't put highest cpc ( start with 0.02$ creep up to 0.025$ )
After approval add 250$ on balance ( why not 50$? network is balance dependent)

And there are some results for yesterday:

(ps sorry for screen, i dont know why image quality is poor)

And that works, i dont know how, but i have small but green profit.
Now I want to add a few more smartlinks and test even more.
I know there's still some of top players on market.
I try register in ProfitSocial but they rejected my application!
With reason - You registered in TopOffers
( I thought they were joking with me, but if you're registered in one of these networks, you can't get an account in other)

My question to afflift community
Do you know any dating smartlink networks WITHOUT a huge registration form and a picture of my cat with 12 hour skype interviews ( i dont know where my 09-17:00 jacket ) with manager?
With fast payouts ( NET-14 its maximum, preferably NET-7)

I have account in Advidi but all smartlinks offers which I found, same as i have ( I think they just took smarts from networks that I tested)

My ideas for new tests:
Test Kintura
Test other EU countries
Add more smartlinks to flow
Test smartlinks without prelanders + My own prelanders
Test with unique/non-unique rotation
+++ I'm VERY interested in what happens tomorrow, is there any excessive optimization? and no one can answer that question, we're making new history

 

[itsmeayman]

Hmm interdasting! Will be following. Good luck brotha

Also

Payouts: i dont know

Lmao

 

[Clickstar]

Hmm interdasting! Will be following. Good luck brotha

Also



Lmao

Ahahah, thank you

About payouts, really, smartlink pay % which he received from direct dating advertiser / dating cpa network

Still, it's a test and I don't think it's a good idea to work like this because everyone wants to earn their own percentage and $.$$$.$$$.
smartlink is 3rd party network

and our path is: (sometimes companies in the chain can be more / less)

1. directdatingnetworkhere.com with direct offer
2. maybecpanetworkhere.com with this offer
3. smartlinknetworkhere.com with rotation and prelanders
4. Smartlink affiliate here and it's great if I get at least 50% of the first point
(And then we wonder why most offers can't be run and they have -50% ROI )

 

[samueleto1]

crakrevenue has but not weekly payment


success..

 

[DEADZ]

I highly recommend you do the Kintura test.

As this is indeed very similar to my own test (thanks for the compliment), I can say for sure (based on my tests & experiences) with Kintura that you'll see an overall higher CVR & ROI.

Also other networks recommendations (based on your criteria):
C3PA
Affmy
ByOffers
GeoEarnings
RevolutionForce

(And then we wonder why most offers can't be run and they have -50% ROI )

 

[Luke]

Super Smartlink Network? Smartlinked Smartlink? Smartlink with top payouts in all GEO?

We kind of did this with PeerFly. We called it Smartest Link

I try register in ProfitSocial but they rejected my application!
With reason - You registered in TopOffers
( I thought they were joking with me, but if you're registered in one of these networks, you can't get an account in other)

That's odd. I am sure @TopOffers ProfitSocial can resolve this

+++ I'm VERY interested in what happens tomorrow, is there any excessive optimization? and no one can answer that question, we're making new history

Looking forward to seeing how this looks. Very interesting! Appreciate the awesome follow along

 

[Clickstar]

I highly recommend you do the Kintura test.

As this is indeed very similar to my own test (thanks for the compliment), I can say for sure (based on my tests & experiences) with Kintura that you'll see an overall higher CVR & ROI.

Also other networks recommendations (based on your criteria):
C3PA
Affmy
ByOffers
GeoEarnings
RevolutionForce

Yeah i reed you topic, which is why I was thinking about kintura

Thank you for network recommendations

crakrevenue has but not weekly payment

ok need some time to test it later

We kind of did this with PeerFly. We called it Smartest Link


That's odd. I am sure @TopOffers ProfitSocial can resolve this


Looking forward to seeing how this looks. Very interesting! Appreciate the awesome follow along

Hahah SUPER PRIVATE EXCLUSIVE SMARTLINK OFFER,
logically, we should get the highest EPV every step of way.

Noo, @TopOffers ProfitSocial won't solve this issue, it's an official position.
I've talked to a representative of every network.
That information's not in TOS, but you'll know when you want to check it out.

I didn't test on Saturday, but I did it on Sunday.
And results were even better:

+74.14% total ROI
+$17.87 total profit

Last test
+21.95% total ROI
+$6.21 total profit

@iMonetizeIt stable in top, @ClickDealer perform well
@LosPollos and Adverten lost battle but not war that day
Because, as they say in support, it takes time to get to the selection of offers.
But I think a small affiliate can't wait a few months, time is dearest currency

 

[TopOffers]

I try register in ProfitSocial but they rejected my application!
With reason - You registered in TopOffers
( I thought they were joking with me, but if you're registered in one of these networks, you can't get an account in other)

Hi Clickstar,
TopOffers and ProfitSocial partners.
Our affiliates could choose 1 network to test.
If you`d like to switch to other network you should stop traffic into 1 network and start testing traffic on other.
More details http://topoffers.com/landing.php?utm_source=afflift

Hit me up in PM with your email used for registrations, i`ll personally check all information.

Thank you.

Marina

 

[Clickstar]

TopOffers Don't have smartlinks, only single dating offers
But ProfitSocial Have smartlink, but dont have single dating offers

Incredible solution, if i need single dating offer later - need close account and create new
But that's two completely different products.
0/10 user experience

Hi Clickstar,
TopOffers and ProfitSocial partners.
Our affiliates could choose 1 network to test.
If you`d like to switch to other network you should stop traffic into 1 network and start testing traffic on other.
More details http://topoffers.com/landing.php?utm_source=afflift

Hit me up in PM with your email used for registrations, i`ll personally check all information.

Thank you.

Marina

But anyway, i try your recommendation

 

[Luke]

+74.14% total ROI
+$17.87 total profit

Last test
+21.95% total ROI
+$6.21 total profit

@iMonetizeIt stable in top, @ClickDealer perform well

Very cool. I'm going to have to give iMonetizeIt another look

 

[Clickstar]

Very cool. I'm going to have to give iMonetizeIt another look

These guys are more popular on CIS countries market.
As well as adverten, @LosPollos @ClickDealer is worldwide network from start
Roots of all these networks from russian speaking countries.
I'm well acquainted with this markets, if a aff networks works with NET-XX+ nobody works with them in dating vertical
NET-3 good /NET-7 normal/NET-14 - suspiciously

I guess @LosPollos is the first one in dating industry who did NET-7 payments and now they have a huge market share in world right now.

okay, enough with philosophy for today

Yesterday's results:

+38.96 Total ROI
+9.13$ Total Profit

And Adverten big boss today
As we can see voluum tried to send quite a bit of traffic to other offers, but everything is useless, more than half traffic was spent on non converted offers With auto rotation, it makes sense, in previous tests, these offers have worked.

I'll observe behavior for a while longer and need tests with kintura.
Anyway, we see voluum auto optimization + 4 smartlinks + clickstar = profit
Yeah, well, there's only enough income to pay for coffee and voluum subscription (with any luck )
But I think it's better than not drinking a cup of coffee a day and spend it to non effective campaigns
And if you do it in a few countries, I think 30-50 bucks daily is pretty real.
I'm barely wasting any time for these campaigns, and my opinion about auto optimization is not a useless thing.

But I think every normal affiliate wants to make $1,000-1500 a day, spending 1-2 hours a week.
Only problem is when products with AI can bring these figures, I'm afraid we won't be needed.
I think that's what evolution of next X years will be like.

 

[Luke]

But I think every normal affiliate wants to make $1,000-1500 a day, spending 1-2 hours a week.

Yeah, most affiliates are pretty unrealistic with their expectations

 

[Clickstar]

We have new name to our offer
Smartlink On Steroids
Daily results:

Total ROI +120.78%
Total Profit +23.09$
@ClickDealer ROI excites me
And Adverten works good but not great
@iMonetizeIt one conversion has won everyone

I wonder what awaits us tomorrow?
Maybe @TopOffers ProfitSocial will reply to my private messages and we'll get a new leader?

 

[TopOffers]

Hi Clickstar,

As was already discussed with you in PM you have 2 accounts: at TopOffers (with spend) and ProfitSocial (no spend yet).
As per your decision, you`ve chosen to monetize your traffic on SmartLink.

Your AM from ProfitSocial pm`ed you.

Let me know if there anything I could help you with.

Thanks.

 

[Clickstar]

Hi Clickstar,

As was already discussed with you in PM you have 2 accounts: at TopOffers (with spend) and ProfitSocial (no spend yet).
As per your decision, you`ve chosen to monetize your traffic on SmartLink.

Your AM from ProfitSocial pm`ed you.

Let me know if there anything I could help you with.

Thanks.

All ok, thank you

 

[Luke]

Results looked really good yesterday. Excited to see how it's looking today

 

[Clickstar]

Results looked really good yesterday. Excited to see how it's looking today

Yeah, me too.
Today, i have great news, @TopOffers ProfitSocial closed my topoffers account and create profit social account.
I hope my manager Victoria from Topoffers won't be offended by me and it doesn't look like a betrayal, i love youu
Its great network, and first where i find dating offers with 3 revenue models - CPL, CPS, Revshare
I did it for science and new smartlink history

BIG ANNOUNCEMENT FOR ALL CLICKSTAR ADVERTISERS:
Dont buy DE traffic from 9 a.m. to 12 p.m.
i need test our Smartlink On Steroids
And test profit social too, need more traffic
Thank you))

Today Results

Hmm, need increase bids, amount of traffic is too little for a test
600 visits for a day, yesterday 900, day before 1169
Apparently, after my posts, competition has increased

+$6.05 TOTAL PROFIT
+49.69% TOTAL ROI

iMonetizeit today leader, adverten & clickdealer & lospollos

But i have:
Optimized smartlinks in my flow
Blacklist
Top converted promos
new smartlink (but not optimized for my traffic right now)

 

[Clickstar]

Chapter 1: Push it to the limit with Clickstar (COMPLETED)

Ok, we have some results with my 1st idea:
Its works and generate profit
Voluum autorotation works and generate profit without my time
Smartlinks in flow works and generate profit
Clickstar traffic works and generate profit

Total Stats Jan 17-Jan 25:

Adverten / 43 Leads / +$31.27 / +53.06% ROI

Imonetizeit Adult Jumps / 25 Leads / +$27.57 ROI +63.97%

Lospollos / 8 Leads / +$12.64 ROI +47.04%

iMonetizeit Mainstream Jumps / 8 Leads / +$10.31 ROI +45.83%

Clickdealer / 17 Leads / +$4.62 / ROI +14.53%

Total Cost: $184.20
Total Profit: $85.38
Total CPV: $0.0225
Total ROI: 46.36%
Total EPV: $0.03287

Adverten profit leader but imonetizeit have biggest ROI

(PS imonetizeit have 2 types of prelanders in system settings and i test 2, adult and mainstream jumps)

I have days with red ROI
considering that there has been little traffic in general, we see very strong ROI movements.
WHY? Read this topic and multiply by X?? because we have double optimisation.
Voluum rotate my offers + smartlink offer rotate & find best offers to my traffic source.

How its real? ALL networks works with profit?
BUY cheaper, Sell MORE

I was start buying DE with little bid - 0.02$ and update to 0.025$ later:
Its cheaper than yesterday average bids here , but my CTR greater than average in network.
Its dating, dating have great CTR , great CTR = ability to buy CHEAPER

Few networks can sell it at this price, I think that's the key point.
My total EPV its $0.03287 if I were buy DE with bid 0.035$ - we'd get a negative result.

My total opinion:
Small bids = Small Revenue for 1 geo.
I've never done a long tests like this before and I get really nervous when I get little traffic, so I always put in big bids.
I usually run a lot of campaigns during day with spending a day XX-XXX$ a lot of chaos that hasn't always worked.
And now, after these tests, I really understand why 80% of the campaigns never had green results...

And I got idea (NEW STRATEGY)
What if i do 10/20/30 such campaigns like DE for ALL EU countries with small bids?
$85.38*10/20/30 for 10 days sounds really good?

Doesn't sound like it anymore, man, are you kidding me?
You spent 10 days and making 85 bucks

But if I hadn't done this test, I would never have thought about it, now I can see it with my own eyes.
And this is very important.

It's really in my head to think that I'm ashamed to say such a result with 85$ profit...

And I'm happy to share these thoughts with you as we are sometimes obsessed with someone else's non-existent opinion in our heads.

Chapter 2: Sky's The Limit (IN PROCESS)

We have new game changer

Well, profitsocial.
I hope you're ready for a fight.
I add you to flow.

My plan (please give me any advice if you have)

1. Now i update my blacklist, stopped non converted promos and start only top converted promos and test 5 smartlinks (with profitsocial)
2. I try bid war and increase to 0.03$ BUT if i dont have any results after 2-3 days on green zone I'll lower bids and use a strategy from my new idea.
(And need some time for ProfitSocial offer optimization)

I'm doing this for the reason - will I get more traffic?

Will my total daytime profit increase or not?

After this - I'll already be trying everything else.

 

[addy112]

@Clickstar being smartlinck what kind of message + pictures you sent to users, you tested more messages + photos or was the same for the entire duration of the test?

 

[Clickstar]

@Clickstar being smartlinck what kind of message + pictures you sent to users, you tested more messages + photos or was the same for the entire duration of the test?

I use 1 message and 1 text

In beginning, of course, I was testing
I took 10 popular dating ads in spypush & test it