Step 14 - Success / Failure Stories

[k@rnivore]

This guide made me buy a VPS today and install Binom, when I noticed how many clicks does the campaign generate

 

[Add!c7ed]

Hi @Add!c7ed Are you planning on quickly leaving Mobipium so soon...

Hi @filthyRichFreddy. Nope. Not planning to leave. What I mean was that I'll probably scale it.

 

[k@rnivore]

I have just run world wide test on my binom, and unfortunately it almost killed my server, too many clicks per minute. My current server can handle maybe 300 clicks per minute, but this campaign test brought me more than 2k per minute.
In this case i think i will run another test, this time in my traffic source i will select option to spread out the budget on the whole day instead of spending it ASAP.

 

[Nick]

I have just run world wide test on my binom, and unfortunately it almost killed my server, too many clicks per minute. My current server can handle maybe 300 clicks per minute, but this campaign test brought me more than 2k per minute.
In this case i think i will run another test, this time in my traffic source i will select option to spread out the budget on the whole day instead of spending it ASAP.

Hehe. Another thing you can do is just rescale your server for tests like that if you’re using a service that allows that like DigitalOcean. Then rescale it back down when you don’t need so much power.

 

[k@rnivore]

Hehe. Another thing you can do is just rescale your server for tests like that if you’re using a service that allows that like DigitalOcean. Then rescale it back down when you don’t need so much power.

Sounds like a good idea.
I would rather spread my budget anyway, my traffic source didn't stop at my "daily budget" nor "campaign budget" and it spent 14usd instead of 10...
Maybe the impressions were being bought too fast even for their system to stop the campaign at 10usd

 

[filthyRichFreddy]

I thought we're throwing money at popads and the traffic flies at the speed of light between traffic and offer... no hosted landing page of ours involved in between that. what's all this talk about servers being too slow, @k@rnivore & @Nick ?

 

[k@rnivore]

I thought we're throwing money at popads and the traffic flies at the speed of light between traffic and offer... no hosted landing page of ours involved in between that. what's all this talk about servers being too slow, @k@rnivore & @Nick ?

Every event (click, conversion etc) must be recorded in the tracker. I am hosting my tracker on my server since i am using Binom. You are using Bemob.

 

[Frrrunkis]

Has anyone else noticed Mobipium smartlinks drying up or dropping conversion rate drastically after a couple hundred conversions per geo? Happened to me today - a nicely optimized campaign in the green suddenly started losing money and had to be paused. Not sure what's going on, the offer pages are working, all seems normal. :/

 

[filthyRichFreddy]

My link tracker is Binom and they allow you to host the actual tracker on your own server. BeMob doesn't allow this until you upgrade to Enterprise membership, but you shouldn't upgrade your link trackers and get fancy cloud servers until you're swimming in money -- the cost of high-speed servers is in the triple digits per month.

Ok. Thanks for sharing that, meat eater. My life now has goals: to get sooo profitable that I run my tracker through a cloud server, which sends data through Elon Musk's new StarLink satellite constellation

 

[k@rnivore]

Has anyone else noticed Mobipium smartlinks drying up or dropping conversion rate drastically after a couple hundred conversions per geo? Happened to me today - a nicely optimized campaign in the green suddenly started losing money and had to be paused. Not sure what's going on, the offer pages are working, all seems normal. :/

exactly. Happened to me as well. They payout model on those smartlinks is variable CPA. Meaning it can change anytime. Not sure how to promote those smartlinks anymore.
I had the following situation:
Run traffic from Morocco, yesterday, all day with nice payout and good ROI. Then suddenly payout dropped so much that in 2h i have lost profit from all the previous hours.
Apparently they will lower your payout if they don't like quality of your traffic.
Today i ask their AM if lowered payout on one GEO means that when i start sending from new GEO they rate for this GEO will be "normal" or also lowered, since they didn't like my other GEO.
I was informed that when i start with a new GEO the payout should be on normal level until they judge my traffic. It is not the case for me:
When i run word wide test i had 8 conversions from Turkey with payout 0.05. Today i wanted to test so i send some more clicks from Turkey and the payout today is close to 0. I am testing Canada now, probably result will be the same, will see...

EDIT: for now i got 2 conversions from new GEO and for now, payout seems to be OK. I just hope it will stay like that.

 

[filthyRichFreddy]

Has anyone else noticed Mobipium smartlinks drying up or dropping conversion rate drastically after a couple hundred conversions per geo?

Hi @Frrrunkis , I'm new to the game but I have a big fat brain so, I would guess that an expectation of consistent profits -- even from a highly optimized campaign -- is unreasonable. Consider, for example, that Time of Day can affect the magnitude of your gains. Users might engage with the offer at 8am because they're up and about. By 11am, they're busy at work with their mobiles turned off. High profits in the AM, then nothing after everybody is slaving away

 

[k@rnivore]

Ok. Thanks for sharing that, meat eater. My life now has goals: to get sooo profitable that I run my tracker through a cloud server, which sends data through Elon Musk's new StarLink satellite constellation

Not sure if you are aware of the Bemob (and every other tracker) pricing plans? Yesterday i had 70k clicks from one GEO only. It would mean over 2M clicks in one month. Imagine now that i run 10 GEOs. I would need to record 20M clicks a month.
It means I would have to pay that much:

 

[filthyRichFreddy]

Not sure if you are aware that link trackers cost money? Yesterday i had tons of clicks and bla-bla-bla. It would mean yada-yada-yada. I would have to pay bla-bla-bla...

My question wasn't with regards to volume of traffic anyone generates. I just wasn't aware that an affiliate could ask the link tracker company to host the tracker on a faster server owned by the affiliate. Sounds like this scenario is inevitable, "Dear Mr. Link Tracker software company, your servers are so darn slow that they're costing me money. So i went ahead and invested into a cloud server, the ultimate in speed demon servers, and need you to please place your tracker code on my faster server. thanks!"

 

[k@rnivore]

Hehe. Another thing you can do is just rescale your server for tests like that if you’re using a service that allows that like DigitalOcean. Then rescale it back down when you don’t need so much power.

I have just noticed that in PopAds I can throttle the traffic, I can set max amount of visits I want to receive per second. That solves my server problems when using PopAds. Unfortunately in PropellerAds i didn't see such option

 

[dood]

I have just noticed that in PopAds I can throttle the traffic, I can set max amount of visits I want to receive per second. That solves my server problems when using PopAds. Unfortunately in PropellerAds i didn't see such option

Try this:

 

[Anan28]

Hey Guys,

Here is my failure result:

I followed Luke's guide exactly step by step. The only difference is I ran offers from other network (with specific links) as I am not approved by @MOBIPIUM even after 10 days.

Can anybody give an idea what went wrong that there is not a single conversion?

 

[Frrrunkis]

exactly. Happened to me as well. They payout model on those smartlinks is variable CPA. Meaning it can change anytime. Not sure how to promote those smartlinks anymore.
I had the following situation:
Run traffic from Morocco, yesterday, all day with nice payout and good ROI. Then suddenly payout dropped so much that in 2h i have lost profit from all the previous hours.
Apparently they will lower your payout if they don't like quality of your traffic.
Today i ask their AM if lowered payout on one GEO means that when i start sending from new GEO they rate for this GEO will be "normal" or also lowered, since they didn't like my other GEO.
I was informed that when i start with a new GEO the payout should be on normal level until they judge my traffic. It is not the case for me:
When i run word wide test i had 8 conversions from Turkey with payout 0.05. Today i wanted to test so i send some more clicks from Turkey and the payout today is close to 0. I am testing Canada now, probably result will be the same, will see...

EDIT: for now i got 2 conversions from new GEO and for now, payout seems to be OK. I just hope it will stay like that.

Right. It turns out the same thing happened to me. The payout went from a reasonably profitable 0.05 USD to complete shit (around 0.01 USD). Needless to say, I can't continue this campaign now.

@Luke, is this kind of thing common? How does one combat this other than begging the AM?

 

[k@rnivore]

Hey Guys,

Here is my failure result:

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I followed Luke's guide exactly step by step. The only difference is I ran offers from other network (with specific links) as I am not approved by @MOBIPIUM even after 10 days.

Can anybody give an idea what went wrong that there is not a single conversion?

based on your data, no clue. What offer did you run?

 

[Akahma]

Hello Anan28 , congrats on taking action,
Remember it's not failure, consider it as testing
What CPA network you have chosen offer from ,
What vertical ? Type of offer, how did you chose this offer.. etc

, is this kind of thing common? How does one combat this other than begging the AM?

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It's not begging, affiliate marketing is about relations, and networking..the more good one you have the more good work flow you get

 

[filthyRichFreddy]

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Can anybody give an idea what went wrong that there is not a single conversion?

This upper-level view shows you the aggregate results, @Anan28 including any profits that might be present at deeper levels but got cancelled out by the overwhelming losing majority.

But if this is Round 1, the total campaign profitability "should" be negative, because you have not yet optimized it.

You must polish your campaign by doing several rounds, as explained in this Mega Guide.
Do a Drilldown Report, or use the navigation menu at the very top of the BeMob interface to view the sub-parameters of your campaign. This is how you dig for the gems among the dirt...

...it's how you prepare for the next round.

...it's how we optimize.

aside: I got approved by following the instructions as explained here and I also replied to the email sent by my affiliate manager (don't ignore them).