Follow Along Let's Shotgun Some Push Conversions

Luke

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Staff member
I just realized I can right click a campaign on Kintura and it gives me options:

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@Kintura please somehow make this more obvious because I spent a lot of time manually cloning my campaigns last night when apparently I could do it with 1 click lol
 

Nick

Well-known member
They are pretty addicting LOL. I think it's possible to get them to profit, but not significantly with all the competition there is. A course could be a good idea, as I think it's a really good way to learn how to optimize since you get so much data for so cheap.

It's less discouraging than spending $XXX and not having enough data to truly optimize.
 

Luke

Admin
Staff member
It's less discouraging than spending $XXX and not having enough data to truly optimize.
Yeah, that's what I am thinking. This seems like a good opportunity to teach a lot of the fundamentals with a low barrier of entry.
 

Luke

Admin
Staff member
The struggle with this strategy is real :)

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II am not sure what happened to the US and Italy today. It's odd that the few t3 GEOs I have running in my multi-geo campaign are doing well. I'll probably stop wasting my time with these campaigns, but I do think I will use them as an example for the fundamentals of affiliate marketing. If you can get these $0.05 payouts profitable, the higher payouts should be a breeze :D
 

LeMin

Member
Hey Luke, it's great to see you're getting a lot of data but I'm wondering if you have any problems with bot traffic with @Zeropark PPV? I understand that bot traffic is inevitable but I get multiple sources that produce 60% traffic, it kinda worry me.
 

Luke

Admin
Staff member
Hey Luke, it's great to see you're getting a lot of data but I'm wondering if you have any problems with bot traffic with @Zeropark PPV? I understand that bot traffic is inevitable but I get multiple sources that produce 60% traffic, it kinda worry me.
Based on the reports provided by Kintura, I am definitely seeing some bots:

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In fact, that seems pretty high for the top campaigns. I should probably go through and find the targets/sources where most of them are coming from and pause them.
 

markbeats

Member
Same here, very hard to have these 0.05 payout campiagns profitable.
I thought it could be done but it is a lot of struggle and at the end of the day you re making few pennies.
Would be great to learn from someone that can make it work.
@Nick , a course would be appreciated from me.
 

Luke

Admin
Staff member
Same here, very hard to have these 0.05 payout campiagns profitable.
I thought it could be done but it is a lot of struggle and at the end of the day you re making few pennies.
Would be great to learn from someone that can make it work.
@Nick , a course would be appreciated from me.
I think @Luke was considering making a course.
I think it's possible to make these profitable, but you need to get someone who wants to build up a subscriber base in GEOs that aren't as competitive and still get a decent payout. It's definitely tough. I think the push subscription offers are better used as an instrument to learning how to analyze and optimize. A course would be sweet. I will see what I can do :)

For the record, I did get a few GEOs profitable and was able to make a few hundred dollars before they started to underperform 📈
 

Luke

Admin
Staff member
Found a few profitable GEOs for some push offers using the shotgun method.

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This is a screenshot of 1 of 3 I am working on right now and I just added another that looks like it has potential. Not all is lost, but these definitely take quite a bit of time. I'll probably end up profiting about $50/day off 4 campaigns lol

We'll see how long it lasts :)
 

Aptfxer

Active member
The struggle with this strategy is real :)

I'll probably stop wasting my time with these campaigns, but I do think I will use them as an example for the fundamentals of affiliate marketing. If you can get these $0.05 payouts profitable, the higher payouts should be a breeze :D
100%, and a lot cheaper then serial buying the latest and greatest from the "Gurus". It's all about numbers and on these low payout offers, the investment isn't going to cost anyone their shirt.

There's no substitute for actually rolling sleeves up and getting on with it.
 

Luke

Admin
Staff member
Pops + Redirects -> Push (with some other little tests mixed in that have decreased my ROI)...

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Not bad. Going to keep messing with it and try to come up with a mega thread with some videos on setting up, running, optimizing, and scaling.
 

cacofb

Member
Luke,

Newbie questions:

What is the shotgun method?
What is the difference between Sources and Targets in ZeroPark? Targets are placements in those sources or what?

Thanks
 

Rich

Active member
Campaign approved on Zeropark. Increasing my bid by $0.001 until I see a steady flow of traffic.

FALSE ALARM: I was talking to Aaron from @Kintura and he recommended not using Cloudflare for my tracking link so I'm switching that. Campaign will be paused while this updates :)
Hey Luke, how often do you raise the bid by 0.001 until you reach a steady traffic flow? i.e. once per day/per hour etc.

Thanks
 

Luke

Admin
Staff member
What is the shotgun method?
I believe this could be answered by reading through the thread, but if I didn't mention it, it's just a term I used for testing a bunch of different things at once. A shotgun sprays a bunch of bullets at the same time hoping to hit something. That's what I've done with this campaign (and is a method I use often). You have to have a bigger budget in most cases with this type of method because you're testing a bunch of variables at once.

What is the difference between Sources and Targets in ZeroPark? Targets are placements in those sources or what?
A Source will have many Targets. For example, the Source might be PopAds and the Targets would be every website that uses PopAds.
(if PopAds is brokering their traffic to Zeropark)

I have many guides on Zeropark. Check them out (videos included):
Check them out :)

Hey Luke, how often do you raise the bid by 0.001 until you reach a steady traffic flow? i.e. once per day/per hour etc.
I'll do it throughout the day to make sure I am giving Zeropark time to update the % of traffic I am winning. If I get to 50% plus on a Target or Source, it's time to set a manual bid for whatever the average cost is.

are you using any tracker or spying tool with this campaign?
Look at the original post and I tell you I am using Kintura tracker (and I explain why). I am not using a spy tool because I've already tested these offers a bunch of times and know they perform.

can i try this offer on megapush, or megaapush isn'treliable anymore
I do not run push subscription offers on push traffic sources.
 

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