Prosper202 is FREE again

agentf

Well-known member
Community Leader
Hey all,

Thanks Luke for sharing the news.

The free Prosper202 is the exact same code as the paid Prosper202. I'll explain more about the reasoning later down.

Prosper202 has been under almost solo development since 2011, I returned to work on it after Wes and Steven purchased it back.

Wes eventually moved on to other projects and I took over it full time.

There’re a lot of new things to discover and benefit from in Prosper202. Some of them were/are industry firsts. I fully expect other trackers will adopt some of the stuff I built, it's competition.

Here are examples of tech Prosper202 was first to have purlink zero redirects. That’s the ability to eliminate redirects from your lp to your offer. It uses your affiliate link directly but Is faster due to automatic optimizations Prosper202 does on the landing page

Currently Prosper202 is also the first and only tracker to offer deferred pixels.This allows you to fire client side pixels with a postback. Imagine being able to build FB purchase LLAs even if your offer only allows postbacks.

There’s a lot more, so skim the changelogs to see everything.

Currently I have Warp202 under development. It’s an entirely new plug in redirect engine built for speed. I ditched php which is old and sluggish and wrote everything with Go. It’s enterprise level performance, we are talking about the ability to handle thousands of redirects in milliseconds.

So why free? Why now?

People have never stopped asking for the free Prosper202 to come back since it became paid. So I have always known there was a need for it.
But the old way Prosper202 was eventually monetized (we launched Revolution202) is not a model I wanted to redo so it become paid.

Luke didn't mention this, but he asked for deal (cheaper Prosper202) for all of you. I politely declined.

The logistics of two code bases for free and paid was too much to deal with as a solo dev. The only way this could work is if it was the same code for both free and paid.

I wasn't willing to do that, and also it's kind of scary putting a free version out there that's the exact one people pay for, which in turn pays my bills and keeps my family fed.

But I woke up yesterday thinking about the tens of thousands of people who have been put in worse situations due to the current pandemic. I felt I was in a position to make a small difference in the lives of a small fraction of those who will be affected.

The original free Prosper202 made it possible for thousands of affiliates (people) to make a living during the last big recession in 2007-2009. Some made millions due to having access to Prosper202, and a few went on to do really awesome things for this industry.

You can thank Wes for that, back then I thought it was a terrible idea to offer Prosper202 for free. Now here I am doing the same lol.

If I'm able to replicate just a fraction of that again, it would be worth it.

So I came up with the following idea. Free Prosper202 and Paid Prosper202 will be exactly the same. But the free version doesn't come with live support from me. There's the knowledge base at https://support.tracking202.com for that, and all of you have this forum.

IMHO: Luke's Prosper202 content was/is one of the best. He often went into more detail on stuff than we did on our end. So you are in good hands.

Eventually there will be a way for you to to purchase upgrades that are mainly tied to support and access to my time. The current breakdown is

Plan 1 (estimated price range $29-$49 a month)
Live Chat Support
Weekly live Mastermind202 zoom calls

Plan 2 ( Estimated price $299+ a month)
Everything above and live personal one on one zoom calls for CTO/CMO as a service type assistance.

My hope to is that, you will upgrade to paid plans when they are financially able to do so. At the end of the day, your money pays my bills. It also allows me to support you better and speed up the the development process by bring on more developers.

My feature backlog is massive, I'm heading back to my code editor once this long post is done to finish a major new feature for purlinks.

I will be active here as much as possible, to answer your questions and generally be a part of this community Luke built.

My only ask is to not "expect" me to personally answer your support questions. I will always chime in if I'm free and able to do so, but out of fairness and general sound business practices, my priority will always be to my paid customers.
That is just great and so nice to see, someone wanting to give back rather than just finding another way to try and squeeze more money out of people, well done Nana you're a top bloke and I salute you 🤝
 

qiqi

Member
I got bored and set up a quick copy to take a look, my first impressions are that the interface is slow, looks dated and is somewhat confusing now I'm used to the newer cloud-based trackers!

There are a number of ads and links other things which are to be expected on a free version of anything but otherwise seems all there.

If anyone wants a look but doesn't have the time/skills/patience to set up your own here are the login details to my test site.



Please don't trash it as someone else might want to have a poke about, the account is a Campaign Manager not Admin if you want to access as admin PM and I'll set you up.

Remember this is just a test system you can see what it's like etc. DO NOT try and run a campaign from it!!
What version of php are you running it on? Also, thanks for setting this up.
 

qiqi

Member
I took a peek at the code. This is an awesome learning tool. Since the style is so old school all the logic is right there in source code whether it's html, sql, or business logic. Now I realize that this isn't current with industry best practice and not something you could easily step into without considerable experience and die hard motivation (for lack of a better way to say it). But it's still way better than some over-engineered applications built on complex frameworks I've had the unfortunate experience of having to work on.

It's also great to see super productive engineers representing minorities like Nana (sorry if that's not really your face I see). The change log alone gets my sincere admiration. This is definitely the work of someone who knows how to get things done! Thank you for sharing and I wish you the best of luck to succeed in this new but old chapter of your life!
 

BenitoB

Active member
It is true that Prosper202 has an old school logic to it. Even I as a beginner some years ago couldn't get used to the stats view, for example.

HOWEVER, this might be the new king of free trackers. I was using ClickerVolt since I just needed basic tracking and country redirects, but in my opinion it is not suited for big loads of traffic. After sending more than 3M clicks per month and dealing with mysql and wp-cron problems, I'm just done with it.

Do you guys know if Prosper can handle big ammounts of traffic properly?
 

agentf

Well-known member
Community Leader
Do you guys know if Prosper can handle big ammounts of traffic properly?
I would say yes but it would be down to the server you're running it on, if its a shared 512mb server then probably struggle but if it has plenty ram and ssd's then should be able to, @T202Nana might be able to confirm that but he may not be on for a while as he is busy coding ;)
 

qiqi

Member
It is true that Prosper202 has an old school logic to it. Even I as a beginner some years ago couldn't get used to the stats view, for example.

HOWEVER, this might be the new king of free trackers. I was using ClickerVolt since I just needed basic tracking and country redirects, but in my opinion it is not suited for big loads of traffic. After sending more than 3M clicks per month and dealing with mysql and wp-cron problems, I'm just done with it.

Do you guys know if Prosper can handle big ammounts of traffic properly?


Just For Fun - Prosper202 Enhanced With BlazerCache™ Optimized Redirect Technology- (250 concurrent hits over 60 seconds)
Hits/Day:
19,862,752
Avg Hit Rate: 229/second
Avg Response Time: 65 Milliseconds
Max Response Time: 390 Milliseconds
Lost Clicks: 0.02%

Q: Where can I download this new version of Prosper202
A: You can't right now, it's currently only available via our new Hosted Tracking202 service

Looks like you need the hosted version or have it set up for you by their dev.
 

agentf

Well-known member
Community Leader
As a way of giving a bit back to the community, I'm offering to help set up propsper202 on DigitalOcean for anyone that wishes to use it.

What I will do:
  • I'll help you set up your VPS for you with MariaDB, Nginx, PHP, open firewall ports etc.
What will not do
  • Provide a domain name
  • Pay for the VPS
  • Teach you how to use Prosper202
  • Setup your own campaigns etc.
Just to be crystal clear here I'm not going to teach you how to use it, create any campaigns or anything like that you will need to go through the documentation / how-to videos.

I'm only offering to get you up and running if you don't have the tech skills to do it yourself you will need to do the rest!
 
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agentf

Well-known member
Community Leader
As a way of giving a bit back to the community, I'm offering to help set up propsper202 on DigitalOcean for anyone that wishes to use it.

What I will do:
  • I'll help you set up your VPS for you with MariaDB, Nginx, PHP, open firewall ports etc.
What will not do
  • Provide a domain name
  • Pay for the VPS
  • Teach you how to use Prosper202
  • Setup your own campaigns etc.
Just to be crystal clear here I'm not going to teach you how to use it, create any campaigns or anything like that you will need to go through the documentation / how-to videos.

I'm only offering to get you up and running if you don't have the tech skills to do it yourself you will need to do the rest!
Actually come to think of it can be any provider as long as it CentOS v8, so DO, Vultr etc.

If you want help PM me and we can sort something out ;)
 

Maca

Member
As a way of giving a bit back to the community, I'm offering to help set up propsper202 on DigitalOcean for anyone that wishes to use it.

What I will do:
  • I'll help you set up your VPS for you with MariaDB, Nginx, PHP, open firewall ports etc.
What will not do
  • Provide a domain name
  • Pay for the VPS
  • Teach you how to use Prosper202
  • Setup your own campaigns etc.
Just to be crystal clear here I'm not going to teach you how to use it, create any campaigns or anything like that you will need to go through the documentation / how-to videos.

I'm only offering to get you up and running if you don't have the tech skills to do it yourself you will need to do the rest!
Thanks, agentf! I am going to try it with a tutorial i ve found and i will ask you for doubts... i dont have idea about it! I installed once prosper but with cpanel...
 

agentf

Well-known member
Community Leader
Thanks, agentf! I am going to try it with a tutorial i ve found and i will ask you for doubts... i dont have idea about it! I installed once prosper but with cpanel...
Well give me a shout if you need to, I've set it up on cPanel as well ;)
 

T202Nana

Member
I took a peek at the code. This is an awesome learning tool. Since the style is so old school all the logic is right there in source code whether it's html, sql, or business logic. Now I realize that this isn't current with industry best practice and not something you could easily step into without considerable experience and die hard motivation (for lack of a better way to say it). But it's still way better than some over-engineered applications built on complex frameworks I've had the unfortunate experience of having to work on.

It's also great to see super productive engineers representing minorities like Nana (sorry if that's not really your face I see). The change log alone gets my sincere admiration. This is definitely the work of someone who knows how to get things done! Thank you for sharing and I wish you the best of luck to succeed in this new but old chapter of your life!
I am not going to win awards for the code :) I made a trade off between doing a complete rewrite and building on what I inherited and chose the latter.

The plus side is that anyone can hack on it with a little effort.

Yep that’s my face all in the chat. You may eventually get tired of seeing it. Haha
 

T202Nana

Member
It is true that Prosper202 has an old school logic to it. Even I as a beginner some years ago couldn't get used to the stats view, for example.

HOWEVER, this might be the new king of free trackers. I was using ClickerVolt since I just needed basic tracking and country redirects, but in my opinion it is not suited for big loads of traffic. After sending more than 3M clicks per month and dealing with mysql and wp-cron problems, I'm just done with it.

Do you guys know if Prosper can handle big ammounts of traffic properly?
with the right hardware and tuning yes.

Php in general is not built for high volume. But php 7.3 has come a long way. I have had a setup on AWS for a client that processed millions of clicks an hour.

But without having a dba on staff, the easiest way to maintain performance is to empty out old click data. When I had the private cloud service, I managed all that.

Over time, I will build out more functionality to keep the database optimized and fast automatically.
 

T202Nana

Member


Just For Fun - Prosper202 Enhanced With BlazerCache™ Optimized Redirect Technology- (250 concurrent hits over 60 seconds)
Hits/Day:
19,862,752
Avg Hit Rate: 229/second
Avg Response Time: 65 Milliseconds
Max Response Time: 390 Milliseconds
Lost Clicks: 0.02%

Q: Where can I download this new version of Prosper202
A: You can't right now, it's currently only available via our new Hosted Tracking202 service

Looks like you need the hosted version or have it set up for you by their dev.
I shut down that service many years ago to allow me to focus on one thing. That is a pretty old post.

Lots of optimizations have happened since then.

But the new warp202 makes those numbers look weak.
 
Hey all,

Thanks Luke for sharing the news.

The free Prosper202 is the exact same code as the paid Prosper202. I'll explain more about the reasoning later down.

Prosper202 has been under almost solo development since 2011, I returned to work on it after Wes and Steven purchased it back.

Wes eventually moved on to other projects and I took over it full time.

There’re a lot of new things to discover and benefit from in Prosper202. Some of them were/are industry firsts. I fully expect other trackers will adopt some of the stuff I built, it's competition.

Here are examples of tech Prosper202 was first to have purlink zero redirects. That’s the ability to eliminate redirects from your lp to your offer. It uses your affiliate link directly but Is faster due to automatic optimizations Prosper202 does on the landing page

Currently Prosper202 is also the first and only tracker to offer deferred pixels.This allows you to fire client side pixels with a postback. Imagine being able to build FB purchase LLAs even if your offer only allows postbacks.

There’s a lot more, so skim the changelogs to see everything.

Currently I have Warp202 under development. It’s an entirely new plug in redirect engine built for speed. I ditched php which is old and sluggish and wrote everything with Go. It’s enterprise level performance, we are talking about the ability to handle thousands of redirects in milliseconds.

So why free? Why now?

People have never stopped asking for the free Prosper202 to come back since it became paid. So I have always known there was a need for it.
But the old way Prosper202 was eventually monetized (we launched Revolution202) is not a model I wanted to redo so it become paid.

Luke didn't mention this, but he asked for deal (cheaper Prosper202) for all of you. I politely declined.

The logistics of two code bases for free and paid was too much to deal with as a solo dev. The only way this could work is if it was the same code for both free and paid.

I wasn't willing to do that, and also it's kind of scary putting a free version out there that's the exact one people pay for, which in turn pays my bills and keeps my family fed.

But I woke up yesterday thinking about the tens of thousands of people who have been put in worse situations due to the current pandemic. I felt I was in a position to make a small difference in the lives of a small fraction of those who will be affected.

The original free Prosper202 made it possible for thousands of affiliates (people) to make a living during the last big recession in 2007-2009. Some made millions due to having access to Prosper202, and a few went on to do really awesome things for this industry.

You can thank Wes for that, back then I thought it was a terrible idea to offer Prosper202 for free. Now here I am doing the same lol.

If I'm able to replicate just a fraction of that again, it would be worth it.

So I came up with the following idea. Free Prosper202 and Paid Prosper202 will be exactly the same. But the free version doesn't come with live support from me. There's the knowledge base at https://support.tracking202.com for that, and all of you have this forum.

IMHO: Luke's Prosper202 content was/is one of the best. He often went into more detail on stuff than we did on our end. So you are in good hands.

Eventually there will be a way for you to to purchase upgrades that are mainly tied to support and access to my time. The current breakdown is

Plan 1 (estimated price range $29-$49 a month)
Live Chat Support
Weekly live Mastermind202 zoom calls

Plan 2 ( Estimated price $299+ a month)
Everything above and live personal one on one zoom calls for CTO/CMO as a service type assistance.

My hope to is that, you will upgrade to paid plans when they are financially able to do so. At the end of the day, your money pays my bills. It also allows me to support you better and speed up the the development process by bring on more developers.

My feature backlog is massive, I'm heading back to my code editor once this long post is done to finish a major new feature for purlinks.

I will be active here as much as possible, to answer your questions and generally be a part of this community Luke built.

My only ask is to not "expect" me to personally answer your support questions. I will always chime in if I'm free and able to do so, but out of fairness and general sound business practices, my priority will always be to my paid customers.
Oh lord I remember trying to use this about 10–11 years ago. I couldn’t figure it out back then. What a noob. Oh wait, I can barely figure out how to use beMob and that’s super simple. But I’ll give it a try. The price is right
 
So, quick story. I recently reconnected with Nana from Prosper202. Nana and I have been in touch on and off over the past 10 or so years. I blogged quite a bit about the Prosper202 tracker and created documentation for my PeerFly publishers over the years.

Anyway, a few years ago, Prosper202 switch to being exclusively a paid tracker. It was free for a long time which is why I recommended it to my new publishers and why it go so big.

Well, Nana messaged me yesterday with some interesting news...

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First off, it's pretty cool of Nana to make Prosper202 free. I am not sure what his long term plan is because obviously he can't feed his family selling a free tracker, but this seems like a great opportunity to give Prosper202 a try if you haven't used it a few years like me :D

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You can sign up for Prosper202 and download it here:


Click the green button to sign up. You'll be taken to your account page once you're all signed up. It's still asking for billing info, but you can download P202 simply by going to the Get Prosper202 link:

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I just downloaded it so I haven't had a chance to set it up a server yet, but I will do that this afternoon and I expect some serious nostalgia since I spent years looking at Prosper202 😆

Edit: Read Nana's response below to Prosper202 going free with his explanation as well.
I hope this is as easy to use as beMob!
 
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